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	<title>Comments on: Becoming more ALT.NET</title>
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	<description>Thoughts on Software Development from Karthik Hariharan</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://webgambit.com/2007/04/10/becoming-more-altnet/comment-page-1/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 08:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This will not end well.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This will degenerate into a &quot;I&#039;m a better developer because I use this tool&quot; argument. &#160;Even worse, it focuses on what tools you are using, rather than if you are *accomplishing the job*.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Pointless and stupid.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>This will not end well.</p>
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<p>This will degenerate into a &quot;I&#8217;m a better developer because I use this tool&quot; argument. &nbsp;Even worse, it focuses on what tools you are using, rather than if you are *accomplishing the job*.</p>
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<p>Pointless and stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Karthik</title>
		<link>http://webgambit.com/2007/04/10/becoming-more-altnet/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Karthik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 08:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Derik,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not suggesting that an ALT.NET developer has to use NUnit over MSUnit. &#160;More that they were aware of nUnit and using it to do their unit testing before a suitable solution like MSUnit came out of Redmond.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Also, at the moment MSUnit is only usable if you have a Team Edition of Visual Studio. &#160;That is changing, but for now nUnit is the only choice for many developers out there.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Derik,</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting that an ALT.NET developer has to use NUnit over MSUnit. &nbsp;More that they were aware of nUnit and using it to do their unit testing before a suitable solution like MSUnit came out of Redmond.</p>
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<p>Also, at the moment MSUnit is only usable if you have a Team Edition of Visual Studio. &nbsp;That is changing, but for now nUnit is the only choice for many developers out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Derik Whittaker</title>
		<link>http://webgambit.com/2007/04/10/becoming-more-altnet/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Derik Whittaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 06:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why would an Alt.Net developer use NUnit of MSUnit. &#160;They DO THE SAME thing. &#160;Just is one is Open and the other is M.S. &#160;Personally i like them both, have used them both.... But at the end of the day, I dont CARE which i use as long as I have TESTS......&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A tool is a tool, it is all about the results the tool provides. &#160;And in this case they both provide the same results.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Why would an Alt.Net developer use NUnit of MSUnit. &nbsp;They DO THE SAME thing. &nbsp;Just is one is Open and the other is M.S. &nbsp;Personally i like them both, have used them both&#8230;. But at the end of the day, I dont CARE which i use as long as I have TESTS&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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<p>A tool is a tool, it is all about the results the tool provides. &nbsp;And in this case they both provide the same results.</p>
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		<title>By: joeyDotNet</title>
		<link>http://webgambit.com/2007/04/10/becoming-more-altnet/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>joeyDotNet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 22:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1. Check (R# is an absolute must)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2. Check (How could MS hire the guy who wrote NUnit and still get MSTest so wrong?)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3. Check (I hope NAnt can hang on)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;4. Check (NH == nice PI domain objects, EF not so much)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;5. Check (and actually MonoRail is really a MVC implementation, subtle, but important difference)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;:)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>1. Check (R# is an absolute must)</p>
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<p>2. Check (How could MS hire the guy who wrote NUnit and still get MSTest so wrong?)</p>
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<p>3. Check (I hope NAnt can hang on)</p>
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<p>4. Check (NH == nice PI domain objects, EF not so much)</p>
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<p>5. Check (and actually MonoRail is really a MVC implementation, subtle, but important difference)</p>
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